Opinions and comments on the boxes.
Honestly. Harle and I thought to leave this topic alone... but again, I will have to apologize to you Harle, since I am obviously going to address this.
What is it with people who definitely need to just commentcommentcomment without even thinking of what they're saying/writing before they click the 'post' button at the bottom of the page? It really, REALLY ticks me off to see comments like the ones found in Harle's soon-to-be-possibly-terminated comments' box.
I agree with the person who told us to stop the arguments (aside from the warning, that is) because frankly - everyone's free to feel even the slightest bit lost once in awhile. So to those who say that Harle doubts herself when she has moments of hesitation - please tell me this: Have YOU never, EVER doubted in your entire lives?
Have you never stopped and wondered if what you thought, what you believed could be a little bit much? Mrf. It is only in doubt that we realize just how we want to live our lives and how we plan to go on. HOw we plan to mature and how we critically view things in the world.
It is not the lack of belief - rather - it is the affirmation of what you WANT to believe and what you CHOOSE to believe.
There are TWO THINGS that separate human beings from animals (some, anyway) - one of these is the ability to think, feel and choose for ourselves what we want in our lives. THAT, is Harle's point.
Her personal choice of changing something very much her own (her religion), is something that is hers and hers alone. People shouldn't judge her for this - nor should they claim to be 'of higher knowledge' by saying things like: Doubting one's belief means he/she doesn't completely trust her belief.
Existence ~ in as much as you probably meant that to be a good thing, it came out really wrong. Doubting one's belief means that one does not follow blindly. That's plain naivete. Which isn't healthy if you want to mature as a person.
I have had doubts - mostly in the times when I felt/feel lost in a world where so many things happen. We claim tolerance and still people die in brawls and fights because of beliefs. Thus, this kind of reaction - this blind following leads people to become fanatical, and ignorant of the fact that other individuals (stress on the individual) won't exactly see things the same way you do.
Harle has every right to doubt, if only to see the flaws that could be fixed.
I mean, look - if there were such a thing as a perfect society, one wherein disease and famine, and pain and suffering were absent, when the time comes that these disasters do occur, it is more likely that this 'superior race' will wipe itself out. Why? Lack of KNOWLEDGE.
It is in imperfection that we all become perfect. It is doubt that we reach or certainty.
Now... to the rest of those who commented.
no to religion! it only limits our minds on what can be.
And I supposed you're agnostic? *small smile* Don't worry, I have nothing against that - you have the right not to believe in anything at all. And I'm not going to say the same things that my classmates told that particular acquaintance of mine who's agnostic as well - but the point is, whomever you are, you seem to take religion as a hindering to creative minds.
It's not. I guess it's safe to say that the wrong one for you hinders any creative thinking, since... it's that. Wrong for you. It won't help if what ever creed or sect you follow contradicts your personal lifestyle or the openness of your mind.
All the religions in the world - they're all BEAUTIFUL ideals that, if followed properly, followed TRULY - not in the literal sense, but in the higher sense of TRUTH that means you do it without biases, without prejudices... they'd actually WORK.
Too many people follow their 'pre-chosen' religions because they can't imagine a different life for themselves. And, admittedly, they won't/can't accept the existence of a different way of thinking because, they were taught that kind of attitude themselves.
Not by the religion - but by the people who taught them. And these people, themselves have prejudices themselves. You can't help but pass on your beliefs. And that's not a bad thing.
I repeat: It's not a bad thing to pass on your beliefs.
What IS bad and wrong and unfair is when you IMPOSE your beliefs.
Honestly - Harle and I are two of the few Wiccans who do speak up and try to circulate information because, frankly, we now see how unfair it is that Wiccans and the practice gets bashed to bits and interpreted in ignorant ways.
People see black candles in a ritual circle standing as points in the pentagram and they think Devil Worship. NOT TRUE! Black candles signify banishing - of the NEGATIVE energies around us. Black is the removal of all things that bring us grief. It may be death - but then how do you view death - as an end? As a terrible thing? It isn't. In it's own way - it is a release. Although I refuse to believe that it should be an easy way out. That's taking it to the extreme.
Quoted from Passing by: You're not worthy to be Wiccan. You're doubting your own belief. The hell!
You, my dear, have no right to claim whether Harle is worthy or not worthy to acquire the Craft. That is plain ignorance. And if you ARE Wiccan, you're as bad as those who impose their own beliefs upon others.
Wicca is a free path - open to all those who wish to learn and live by it's code of honor. That's why we don't... recruit(?) - it's a personal choice. Again, stres on the choice. For my fellow sisters - Harle, Maia, Isis, Ekai - I serve as a guide. I serve as a mentor, but I ENCOURAGE them to tread the waters on their own - to venture into new ideas which apply to them. All I ask of them is that they keep in mind the Law of Three and the Wiccan Rede. These things in themselves create a sense of responsibility in the person who chooses the wiccan path.
The Law of Three - karmic as it is, reminds us that whatever we give out returns times three. So let out good, you recieve good, let our bad, you recieve your just desserts.
And then there's the Rede which is summarized as 'An it harm none, do what ye will.' This gives us (Wiccans) a little more freedom particularly since it tells us, simply that as long as you don't intentionally hurt anyone - as long as you do all this for the higher/greater good, it alright. You have the freedom.
It's like what my Mom's always told me - if you've got nothing good to say, don't say anything at all. If you've got nothing else to do but bad - don't do it. You'll hurt the people around you.
Goddess. I'm tired. Sometimes I wonder why I even try to speak up - if only to try to make things clearer and to attempt to make people understand.
Unfortunately, people don't... or refuse to, as I have seen in Harle's comment boxes. I continue to wonder as well, how these people manage to find the site. I mean. look, you have nothing CONSTRUCTIVE to say (this goes out to all the bashers out there). Why can't you just SHUT-the-fux-UP?! Gah.
The Refuge will be up soon. I call to all those who want to HELP create the Refuge to contact me asap at my yahoo email.
Maybe then, things would make sense.
I'm out.
